The big battle: Mac OS X vs Windows. en

By Vanx on Tuesday 5 April 2011 11:20 - Comments (17)
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The big battle: Mac OS X vs Windows.

Copycats are a known problem in the IT-world. I used to think that they copy the successful company to make sure they don’t fall behind or look old. Wheez50 opened my eyes in a very thoughtful comment; he says that “truly intuitive designs will eventually resemble each other.” In this blog I will show that this indeed could be the case, by choosing main aspects of an operating systems and comparing them.

Firstly the way one launches programs. Windows has long been known for the icons on the desktop (hence the name windows!), but has in Vista and certainly 7 changed its approach. Important programs are now launched directly from the taskbar.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2858989/Essay/windows%20TB.png

Apple is long known for its dock, which is introduced in 2001. The dock holds all the programs that are running, they have a dot below and other important programs that might not be running. When one moves the mouse over icons, the icons get a bit larger. This is meant to improve navigation and precision. The dock is a perfect example of user interface element that sells; it looks very neat in the shop, but lacks the functions of the more sophisticated Windows taskbar. There is no denying that they look quite alike, with an advantage to Windows as it holds more functionality (Aeropeek, support for multiple documents).



Click the more button to continue reading on my university blog. My grade is dependent on the amount of hits and the time you stay on the page. :)

Of course the full blog will be posted here, when the grades are given! Remember that the audience for this blog is not the average Tweaker, so some parts may seem too easy...

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Comments


By Tweakers user RobIII, Tuesday 5 April 2011 11:22

My grade is dependent on the amount of hits and the time you stay on the page :)
WTF :?

And as with your previous blog: I seem to be missing most of it? Is there a page 2, 3, etc...? Or is that all??

Both this blog and the previous one seriously lack information if you ask me to be concluding anything at all. If you want to prove your thesis you'll need to go way, waaaaay more in-depth. All you've done now is, superficially, compare the dock/startbar and the "menu bar". There's more to it than that.

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By Tweakers user Xessive, Tuesday 5 April 2011 11:43

I totally agree with RobIII.
If your grade is dependent on the time someone stays on your page you should provide
more, in-depth, content about the subject.

It starts of nice though with the thesis “truly intuitive designs will eventually resemble each other.” and comparing the two main rivals and their GUI.
You could (read must) add the development / changes of both GUIs over the last decade to make a point here.

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By Tweakers user Vengeful, Tuesday 5 April 2011 11:44

My grade is dependent on the amount of hits and the time you stay on the page
In that case, use HP Loadrunner and virtualize all your hits.

By Tweakers user Trinsec, Tuesday 5 April 2011 11:46

Somehow this isn't making much sense to me:

Firstly the way one launches programs. Windows has long been known for the icons on the desktop (hence the name windows!)

So, having icons on the desktop somehow is a reason to name the whole OS 'Windows'? :?

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By Tweakers user Xessive, Tuesday 5 April 2011 11:48

Trinsec wrote on Tuesday 05 April 2011 @ 11:46:
Somehow this isn't making much sense to me:

Firstly the way one launches programs. Windows has long been known for the icons on the desktop (hence the name windows!)

So, having icons on the desktop somehow is a reason to name the whole OS 'Windows'? :?
Yep, your right. There should have been a link and picture to the Windows 3.1 / 3.11 GUI and how that looked. That explains why it's called Windows....

By Tweakers user Jaap-Jan, Tuesday 5 April 2011 11:54

Jeez, and all this time I thought that because windows separated different programs, the OS that used that UI- paradigm was called 'Windows'.

And Mac OS X' dock isn't more limited than the Windows 7 taskbar, the Dock also has what Microsoft calls 'jump lists'.

In other words: the whole article is just plain bullshit.

By Tweakers user DarkKnight, Tuesday 5 April 2011 12:10

Xessive wrote on Tuesday 05 April 2011 @ 11:48:
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Yep, your right. There should have been a link and picture to the Windows 3.1 / 3.11 GUI and how that looked. That explains why it's called Windows....
Uh. AFAIK it's called Windows because everything happens in separate 'windows'. As such your whole UI experience is through these 'windows' - hence the name Windows is quite normal and has nothing to do with whether you start it from the 'start'-button, desktop icon or by whistling.

By Tweakers user Roytoch, Tuesday 5 April 2011 12:36

DarkKnight wrote on Tuesday 05 April 2011 @ 12:10:
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Uh. AFAIK it's called Windows because everything happens in separate 'windows'. As such your whole UI experience is through these 'windows' - hence the name Windows is quite normal and has nothing to do with whether you start it from the 'start'-button, desktop icon or by whistling.
I take it he is being sarcastic about the blogger being right.

But, how is this a big battle? It's just a small comparison of some parts of the UI, not even the underlying principles really.

Not that I think a big battle would make any sense. Comparing the OSes does not do justice to the merits of them. It's all personal choice, preferences, what you're used to etcetera.
The dock is a perfect example of user interface element that sells; it looks very neat in the shop, but lacks the functions of the more sophisticated Windows taskbar.
Say what? I take it you never used OSX for more then 5 minutes. If you did, you must have missed the presence of functions like expose? Having all open windows aligned in an orderly fashion and being able to pick one of them strikes me as more effective then just being able to show one window by hovering it.

If you have no experience using an OS it's easy to only see the UI-elements as appearance rather than functionality. This is the case for both windows and OSX, both OSes alike. When I work with windows I see a lot of elements which are more show than function, but that's for large part due to my lack of experience with windows: my fault. This holds true the other way around.

Really, I don't mind reading opinions that contradict mine (else I would've stopped reading the newspaper a long time ago), but the writer lacks experience with what he's trying to describe, and does not manage to put himself above the matter (is that even proper English... guess not).

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By Tweakers user Xessive, Tuesday 5 April 2011 12:39

DarkKnight wrote on Tuesday 05 April 2011 @ 12:10:
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Uh. AFAIK it's called Windows because everything happens in separate 'windows'. As such your whole UI experience is through these 'windows' - hence the name Windows is quite normal and has nothing to do with whether you start it from the 'start'-button, desktop icon or by whistling.
Partly true, the icons in Windows 3.x were grouped in separate... yep Windows. That's what i meant.

By Tweakers user -RetroX-, Tuesday 5 April 2011 12:40

Xessive wrote on Tuesday 05 April 2011 @ 11:48:
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Yep, your right. There should have been a link and picture to the Windows 3.1 / 3.11 GUI and how that looked. That explains why it's called Windows....
Vanaf wikipedia:
Microsoft Windows 1.0 werd met een enorme hype aangekondigd op de grote Comdex-computerbeurs in november 1983.
MS did not renamed their OS suddenly "windows" because of a some release (3.1) may years later. Also: MS's windows was not the first OS using "windows" or graphics in their UI.

By Tweakers user MicGlou, Tuesday 5 April 2011 12:45

When I start 2 read a comparison review and the picture headlining the article already insinuates prejudice against on or the other... It can't be taken seriously anymore. That makes the article biased from the start from which the winner can already be predicted with 99,9% accuracy... then why read the whole story? Besides that, this is such a superficial review, it doesn't say anything about the software itself... it only tells what YOU like and don't like about mainly the GUI... it doesn't make the software better or worse without a technical explanation that comes with it.

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By Tweakers user i-chat, Tuesday 5 April 2011 13:23

Xessive wrote on Tuesday 05 April 2011 @ 11:48:
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Yep, your right. There should have been a link and picture to the Windows 3.1 / 3.11 GUI and how that looked. That explains why it's called Windows....
lol apart from the time spend on your blog is there also a mesure of truethfullness to take in consideration while grading you because you would most certainly get a F- if that where to be the case. what a total rubbish.

By Tweakers user Postman_Pat, Tuesday 5 April 2011 13:25

Go back and do your research again. Apple had a GUI long before MS did.
In 1984 Apple launched the Macintosh which had a GUI. in 1985 MS launched its own Windows 1.0. And long before those were launched Xerox had the star Workstation with the very first GUI.

By Tweakers user wheez50, Tuesday 5 April 2011 13:29

OS X - just the name is a direct copy of an excellent similar operating system. And between windows 3(.1) and windows 7 there's more difference than between OS 2 and OS 10 (or X).

By Tweakers user ZpAz, Tuesday 5 April 2011 13:58

wheez50 wrote on Tuesday 05 April 2011 @ 13:29:
OS X - just the name is a direct copy of an excellent similar operating system. And between windows 3(.1) and windows 7 there's more difference than between OS 2 and OS 10 (or X).
OSX is a completely rewritten operating system than OS9 and before. OSX is a Unix operating system which OS9 and earlier was not.

By Tweakers user wheez50, Tuesday 5 April 2011 15:09

Hey! That's mean! You're using facts instead of the OP. :o

edit: Unix existed longer than either any apple operating system or windows. Even OS2 is from a later date. To say an OS is 'completely rewritten' and at the same time it's an unix OS is contradicting itself...

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By Tweakers user Osxy, Tuesday 5 April 2011 17:52

ZpAz wrote on Tuesday 05 April 2011 @ 13:58:
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OSX is a completely rewritten operating system than OS9 and before. OSX is a Unix operating system which OS9 and earlier was not.
OSX is compared to OS9 a completely other OS, you can recognize some parts of the old OS but its very limited.
Also it isn't UNIX based, Apple does say this but the base it NeXTSTEP and BSD then UNIX.


The first gui based PC was a Xerox OS called Parc, it wasn't a big success, the first commercial succesfull GUI OS was Mac OS in 1984. The team behind the mac os did have some members of the xerox Parc os.

In 1985 Microsoft released Windows 1 which was merely a DOS skin.

Intresting fact is that Microsoft released Word for mac in 1985 but the first Windows version didn't come out untill 1989.

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